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Jack Byham's avatar

Doug,

I've been enjoying reading these Substack posts of yours. I find them inspiring--and well-written.

I wanted to observe something about this third post: it begins with a kind of moderate, reasonable skepticism about what virtue is and requires of us in political life, especially from the Biblical perspective, about which even followers of Jesus might disagree. But it ends more confidently than it began, speaking without irony of traditional morality, a healthy society, and the foundations of virtue, as if they were unproblematic and uncontroversial. I wonder to which side you find yourself leaning more, in your unguarded moments--the skeptical beginning or the confident conclusion.

If I have followed you well, one of your most basic points throughout your three posts is that liberalism--liberalism understood as requiring neutrality, especially moral neutrality on the part of the lawmakers towards those obliged to obey the law, is not only unworkable because impossible in practice--most laws imply some kind of value judgment just by being laws at all (a point that Eric Jackson makes below)--but also bad because the goal of neutrality is morally vacuous and tends to elevate a morally neutral stance towards things within the soul, thus enervating our moral energy and making us all more myopic, self-serving, and overly ideological, which is bad for the common good.

Here's a question for you: does moving beyond this state of affairs require abandoning the Declaration and the claims of the Declaration about the origin of rights in nature and of the purpose of government, which is to secure those rights?

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Eric Jackson's avatar

Douglas, appreciate the thought-provoking post. I did have a couple of questions that I wanted to understand your perspective on. One of them is the “Broken windows” theory. It seems that you’re advocating allowing certain small things to go, it seems to be that allowing a lot of “small” things to slide it leads to ignoring the larger things. What would the affect be of allowing small things that the “costs of enforcement dwarf the benefits” to be legal? The real-world examples I can think of include not prosecuting theft which has led to a rise of about 9% in theft. (independent & City, 2018) While the property crimes did decrease in 2021 compared to 2020 (but are still higher than before proposition 47), aggravated assaults and homicides are up, giving some credence to this theory. (Ortiz & Ward, 2021) And another experiment that appeared to support the theory is the reduction in crime in New York under Rudy Giuliani. (Francis, 2003)

Another question I had is with the definition of “virtue” and “vices”. There was some discussion in the 2nd part about virtues and vices, but I’m not sure I have a clear picture of what constitutes a virtue vs. a vice in your writings. Could you enlighten me on what each of them are please?

The last point I wanted to make was where you mentioned “In America, one often hears that the state shouldn’t “legislate morality” or that people have a right to do anything so long as they aren’t “hurting anyone.”” While I broadly agree with what you said, I would argue that any law is an attempt to legislate morality, it just may not be rooted in religious, natural law, or other recognizable moral code. But someone is passing the law because they believe it is right. But thank you for your writings!

References:

independent, A. P. T. A. P. is an, & City, not-for-profit news cooperative headquartered in N. Y. (2018, June 13). Thefts rise after California reduces criminal penalties, report says. Los Angeles Times. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-thefts-rise-california-20180613-story.html

Ortiz, E., & Ward, J. (2021, July 14). After San Francisco shoplifting video goes viral, officials argue thefts aren’t rampant. NBC News. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/after-san-francisco-shoplifting-video-goes-viral-officials-argue-thefts-n1273848

Francis, D. (2003, January). What Reduced Crime in New York City. NBER. https://www.nber.org/digest/jan03/what-reduced-crime-new-york-city

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